Sonicwall Websense Intergration

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jgeisel posted on 20 Mar 2012 11:44 AM

First a little background. We have 2 * v10k G2 appliances and a control/manager/log server running 7.6.2. The v10k g2 appliances are running the following:
content gateway services:
content cop
content gateway / and gateway manager
download service
analytics server

web security services:
filtering service
control service

network agent

The control/manager/log is running the following services:

Websense TRITON - Web Security
Websense DC Agent
Websense Information Service for Explorer
Websense Explorer Report Scheduler
Websense Web Reporting Tools
Websense Reporter Scheduler
Websense Log Server
Websense RTM Client
Websense RTM Server
Websense RTM Database
Websense Usage Monitor
Websense User Service
Websense Policy Server
Websense Policy Broker
Websense Policy Database
Websense TRITON Web Server
Websense TRITON Unified Security Center
Websense TRITON Settings Database
Websense Control Service

Presently we have a cisco router redirect http/https traffic via WCCPv2 to the P1 interfaces on the appliances.
ip wccp 0 redirect-list WS_REDIRECT group-list WS_PROXY
ip wccp 70 redirect-list WS_REDIRECT group-list WS_PROXY

ip access-list standard WS_PROXY
 permit 10.219.251.9
 permit 10.219.251.6


Now to the question, We have a sonicwall NSA E5500. If I "Intergrate" my websense and sonicwall together would this eliminate the need for the router (this is the only thing this router does). I assume websense was originally setup in the standalone format, what considerations are there as a result?

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if you integrate your Sonicwall, and remove your Cisco router which is doing WCCP and sending that traffic to the Websense Content Gateway, you will remove that WCCP ability, and you will no longer be using the Websense Content Gateway at all, unless you explicity proxy through it.  Without the WCG, you'd lose the ability to decrypt the HTTPS sessions and get the full url that the users are going to.

With the Sonicwall, you'd only have the HTTPS ip address of the server, and nothing more.

Additionally, you'd be using the Sonicwall directly with the filter services on the Triton box, and the Appliance would be sitting there... unused.

JACOB SLOAN, CCNA, WCSE

 

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if you integrate your Sonicwall, and remove your Cisco router which is doing WCCP and sending that traffic to the Websense Content Gateway, you will remove that WCCP ability, and you will no longer be using the Websense Content Gateway at all, unless you explicity proxy through it.  Without the WCG, you'd lose the ability to decrypt the HTTPS sessions and get the full url that the users are going to.

With the Sonicwall, you'd only have the HTTPS ip address of the server, and nothing more.

Additionally, you'd be using the Sonicwall directly with the filter services on the Triton box, and the Appliance would be sitting there... unused.

JACOB SLOAN, CCNA, WCSE

 

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More of an addendum to Jacob's post --

With a sonicwall e-class, goto in the content filtering and point it to the filtering serivce on the websense device/appliance.   You will eliminate the need for the router.  HOWEVER --- you lose the ability to use a WCG and/or SSL decrypt.  sonicwall websense integration deployment is real simplistic -- for small businesses.

Also, another downside with this, is that the sonicwall takes a further performance impact from doing such.  For instance, (don't ask how i know), if you enable IPS/GAV and antispy on the e5500, you take more than a 50% performance impact of whatever link you connect to it.  Adding websense content filtering instead of using on-device sonicwall CFS yields roughly another 5-10-ish percent hit.  Call up sonicwall support and they'll confirm their device is a POS.  Shocked they were rated a gartner quadrant leader recently. Them, their memory leaks, and their rebooting firewalls.  And a firewall that is CLI crippled? </rant>

So..if you can,  keep the router -- you retain tons of functionality that i've found very helpful in saving a lot of painful headaches.  Good grief. Smile

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